Show Notes
Is compliance just a checkbox, or the backbone of real security?
Returning to the show with decades of hard-earned insight, Jeff Man makes the case that compliance, especially PCI-DSS, isn't just a formality; it's foundational to modern security. As one of the original architects of the NSA Red Team and a 20-year PCI veteran, Jeff explains how this often-misunderstood framework has shaped everything from pen testing to vendor accountability.
Ron and Jeff unpack the six core goals of PCI, how red teams and SaaS builders are directly affected, and why many security teams resist compliance efforts, despite relying on them to get essential buy-in and funding.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Does compliance equal security? 02:09 – Jeff returns with PCI firepower 03:15 – Defining security vs. compliance 05:33 – “Show me what you’re doing” 06:45 – Six goals at PCI’s core 10:45 – Security is watching, not reacting 13:30 – Companies secure because they have to 15:00 – PCI gave red teams their jobs 16:30 – Stripe and Square absorb PCI burden 19:30 – PCI 4.0 causes confusion 21:00 – Vendors aren’t your trusted advisors 22:30 – “Hate me, but I’ll help”
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