August 11, 2021

Frameworks Over Time w/ Derly Gutierrez, Mustapha Kebbeh and Patrick Benoit

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Show Notes

In this, the very first LIVE episode, Allan Alford interviews guests Derly Gutierrez, Head of Information Security at 1010Data, Patrick Benoit, BISO at CBRE, and Mustapha Kebbeh, CISO at Brinks, as they discuss the use of security frameworks in general and over time. Regarding framework compliance, do we choose one or do we choose many? Do we embrace them fully or partially? What changes our approach to frameworks over time? Security strategies are explained throughout the episode, along with the notions of business adaptation and adoption, regulation and other requirements, and "minimum viable security" approaches that don't require frameworks at all. Key Takeaways: 0:43 – Intro 1:53 – Question to Mustapha: pick and choose from a framework or embrace a framework all in one go? 2:47 – Patrick discusses his own approach to Mustapha’s statement 3:26 – The evolution of CFS adoption briefly discussed and the importance of protection 6:59 – Discussion of a possible "least viable security" approach that doesn’t depend on the frameworks at all 9:50 – Maturity models 13:32 – Security strategies 19:56 – The guests answer: What were the toughest challenges working with a framework? 21:56 – The guests share their best success story with frameworks 23:51 – The guests share their journey on business integration 27:56 – The influence of regulation and other requirements Links: Learn more about Derly on LinkedIn and Twitter Learn more about Mustapha on LinkedIn Learn more about Patrick on LinkedIn Follow Allan Alford on LinkedIn and Twitter Learn more about Hacker Valley Studio and The Cyber Ranch Podcast Sponsored by our good friends at Uptycs
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